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starting new flamefest NOW
by David Nicol 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html That the NRA is a tool of "The Establishment" is not news, right? Is it a correct assertion?

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Re: WRT54GL
by Sean Crago 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

>On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Gene Dascher <gedascher(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I am getting a Linksys WRT54GL today as my old WRK54G seems to be giving up >> the ghost. Has anyone on the list had any experience with running any of >> the non-Linksys firmware on this Router (DD-WRT, OpenWRT, Tomato, etc.) that >> they would care to share? >I installed Tomato on one, worked great. Tomato has an RSS feed for >firmware updates. It is technically non-free software, as the AJAX >webpages are not permitted for use with other firmwares. Make sure >you don't upload the wrong firmware, as the model numbers are all >similar! > > Justin Dugger I'll second the Tomato recommendation. The QoS is remarkably easy to use and the reporting mechanisms are rather handy. It gives really sparse error messages when things go awry, though, ala PPPoE, so you may have to SSH into it on occasion. Unresponsive devs, partially due to the problem described above. Still, the easiest to use and most full featured web interface for any class of router I've ever seen. -Sean

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CCCKC Fundraiser Tomorrow (Monday) Night!
by jur1st 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

For those who came to some of our early meetings and drifted away...and for those who have heard the rumors...we would love to see you all at our first fundraiser tomorrow night. We're taking nominal donations at the door and will be showing two movies (Hackers are People Too and GRL Season 1) and will have the famed LASER graffiti machine for attendees to see and play with. Everything starts off at 8:00 at Harry's Country Club in the River Market. The movies are both relatively short. For those who don't know how far we've come... we are now incorporated as a Missouri Not-For Profit corporation and elected leadership a couple weeks ago. Our space is currently in the early build-out phase and we expect to be hosting user group meetings, projects and the occasional party some time around the first of the year. Let me know if you have any questions... John Benson Cowtown Computer Congress President

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Re: DRM and the PRO-IP Act - Limited time opportunity? Shameless self-promotion?
by Sean Crago 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

>> I think we need a bailout for the disenfranchised >> music people. The government should buy new >> DRM-filled music for them with taxpayer's money. >> After all, isn't that the moral thing to do? >Seems the "right and proper" thing to do, after watching > the U.S. Government agree to pay off Wall Street's > "American Excess Card" payments, would be for > the U.S. government to buy all of the DRM-ed music > from the consumers, without much more than a > "slap on the wrist" penalty to the consumers, > and let them continue to make DRM mistakes > with their new money. Flawed analogy. My proposal was to find a way to chip away at the criminal portions of the DMCA (saving the government money and not costing them a dime) to allow customers to directly pop into the DRM-free camp without any financial hit. Probably a net benefit to the producers as well, discouraging people from getting disenfranchised to the point where they revert to piracy. That said, it'll probably never happen anyway - I imagine it'd be difficult to tack anything on when just working on synchronizing previously passed House and Senate resolutions for a final bill. There was talk about getting the FAIR USE act tacked in as an ammendment, but it didn't include the exemption mentioned above. Given the timing, if it is possible to squeeze anything in, it might be the perfect thing to generate enough outrage to prompt its support. Sean Crago Kathmandu

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Netbook
by Sean Crago 27 Sep '08

27 Sep '08

I'm looking at replacing my (potentially insecure and rarely updated) Xandros-powered Eee with Gigabyte's M912 (the tablet netbook) when they release the SSD & Linux based version, rather than switch distros on the Eee to something without the boot-time optimization. Anyone have considerable experience running Linux on a tablet, and thoughts on what's worth checking out when you get one? I've always been a bit of a fan of dasher and might play with it a little bit in the Gimp, but what else is out there? Any decent handwriting recognition software for note-taking et al? Thanks, Sean Crago

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Making a difference by constant comment.
by Oren Beck 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

Every time you are in a computer store or retail outlet that sells computers. Mention Linux in a positive fashion. NOT asking in a whine "whydoncha..." but a calm assured informational stance of: It would be a Really Good Idea to be selling computers with Linux pre-installed. And also a Good Idea to be selling the Linux magazines,books and software. Currently folks around here have to drive X miles to your competitor. Where I spend dollars X on books and magazines etc. Further explaining the potential $ per Linux user they would bring into their store by carrying the Linux items. It certainly is a better use of our energy than some other methods. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Promoting Linux thru constant advocacy. Let's share our wins and failures- so we can learn from both
by Oren Beck 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

This is a personal challenge of a type we all should be doing absent any comment needed to motivate us. It's a simple yet non-trivial tasking. Each time we make the effort to advocate the use of Linux and/or F/OSS projects ends as a win or a fail. With the lesser victory of at least teaching awareness to build mindshare. Thru positive advocacy and showing what advantages Linux and/or F/OSS have to offer. And doing so in a fashion where we abstain from trash talking other models of coding or licensing. Folks- do we want Linux to be associated with "those anti-profit freaks" or a more level headed perception? It's said one catches more flies with one fluid over another. We've all arguably been guilty of that mistake eh? . If I've not been explicit enough? I wish to see Linux and F/OSS displace non-free code for ethical considerations alone. Arguing for or against the ethics of non-free code is off topic in this concept!. Let's *NOT* go there ok? so what's "On Topic?" Posting the encounters where we or someone we know- Advocates a Linux world software for application - and how the advocacy resolves.. Did Linux become a preferred tool? Or did inertia prevail? I trust you see the intent. With that said? Here's one of my most recent tries- first was a friend with a virus wrecked win98 laptop. Damn Small was demoed as able to get him online for email. then we did an overnight run of recovery tools to save the majority of his data. Instead of wiping his drive yet- he's simply not mounting it when he runs DSL in the toram mode. He's a bit hopeful his employer may yet pay for sending his drive to some mythical service. But - We have a newly minted Linux user and perhaps a KCLUG mamber too He's not yet fully comfortable with the Linux way- but in time? -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Re: Offtopic, but they dialed the funny up to 11
by Geoffrion, Ron P [IT] 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

doesn't work from my phone, even after my 'intergalactic law violation' Google Docs Sorry, but this browser does not support web word-processing. We recommend you try Google Docs on: Mozilla Firefox: 1.0.5 or higher Mozilla SeaMonkey: 1.0 or higher Internet Explorer: 6.0 or higher All of these are FREE and easy to download and use. Note that Beta versions of some browsers may not be supported. If you are working to fix problems with a specific browser and would like to bypass this check, just add ?browserok=true to the end of the Google Docs url. Please note that it is a violation of intergalactic law to use this parameter under false pretenses, so don't let us catch you at it. And, it won't work very well -- really. ©2008 Google - Google Docs Help - Terms of Use - Additional Terms - Privacy Policy - Copyright Notices Ron Geoffrion 913.488.7664 Sent from my cool Sprint phone. -----Original Message----- From: "Sean Crago" <cragos(a)gmail.com> Subj: Offtopic, but they dialed the funny up to 11 Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:20 am Size: 298 bytes To: "KCLUG" <kclug(a)kclug.org> http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?docid=ddp4zq7n_0cdjsr4fn&skipauth=true&p… Beautiful explanation of the financial crisis, are of Metafilter. No response necessary/please don't turn this one offtopic post into an excuse to run an offtopic flamewar/troll-thread. Sean Crago Kathmandu

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Offtopic, but they dialed the funny up to 11
by Sean Crago 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?docid=ddp4zq7n_0cdjsr4fn&skipauth=true&p… Beautiful explanation of the financial crisis, are of Metafilter. No response necessary/please don't turn this one offtopic post into an excuse to run an offtopic flamewar/troll-thread. Sean Crago Kathmandu

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Fwd: Reiser FS or ext3?
by Justin Dugger 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Forwarded because I don't pay attention to reply-tos until it's too late. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:26 PM, gary hildebrand <wa7kkp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have a couple older distros of SuSE -- 6.4 & 7.2 and was wondering if > there is an easy way to do it with a journaling FS? Whenever I'd get a > hit/crash in ext2, it would sorta eat itself up, and then over a period of > time, become unuseable. 6.4 has a wide variety of packages no longer > available on the new distros, and I'd like to have a drive set up so I can > boot it when wanted. Journaling filesystems provide a few main features: fast fsck, data integrity and fast writes. Ext3 is the only FS I know of that allows full data journaling. The rest just journal metadata. Inodes, indirect blocks are write journaled, but the data itself isn't in reiser and XFS. I'm not even sure it's the default in ext3, but I know you can retune ext3 for full data. As for old SuSE kernels, I'm not sure whether they have ext3 in the kernel, or if you'll have to build it yourself. I'm a bit curious, what does SuSE 6.4 have that's no longer available? Justin Dugger

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