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A quite on topic comment regarding "just plain works" as a goal
by Oren Beck 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

We have several levels of computer user. Defining them is edgy beyond the basic dividing line between GUI and CLI users. There are many folks who consider either extreme quite viable. and they get a bit -intense in expressing it. Same applies to the "Multimedia" crowd which considers animated blinkenlight and sound/video presentations as preferable to flat text. The devil appears in reconciling a conflict for mundane users in the extreme application biases. One set of websites might be so deadly flat it looks more like a log dump than a web page intended for humans. The other set may replicate "Grand Theft Auto's look&feel." Let me explain the shortest form as to why both extremes affect the Linux world. WE use browsers that may not be "default ready" to handle the "video game replication" websites. Which to the "Video gaming consumers" makes Linux seem a dead duck.. I am damned if I have easy answers beyond the warning scream that if at ITEC for example a walkerby or lookylou idly punches up their favorite website on a demo Linux machine- and they see "placeholders" or "click to see image" or anything other than the site rendering as it does on their Flash laden home machine- WE FAIL.and so does Linux... Same with Audio. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Re: Midrange Web Browser? (between Firefox and Dillo)
by Sean Crago 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Have you tried simpler Gecko engine based browsers? The fact that they use it on the Nokia Internet Tablets (considerably weaker than your laptop, I'd imagine) implies that you might have more luck trying something like Epiphany. Not sure if that particular project is terribly succesful, but it's a starting point. Opera, though not free, also warrants a try for the same reason. It tends to perform quite well on older and embedded platforms. That said, the first thing I'd try is installing FlashBlock and ad blocking plugins on your existing Firefox install. That generally does the trick for me, on these older machines. It's not the browser but the poorly designed/over-designed flash ads that tend to cause the vast majority of the problem. Of course, there's always Lynx if the above doesn't work. Sean Crago Kathmandu, Nepal

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[Fwd: Reminder: ITEC Kansas City is two weeks away – register now]
by Chris Bier 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

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Re: Midrange Web Browser? (between Firefox and Dillo)
by Leo Mauler 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Brendan G <moldybeats(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I haven't tried it, but there's a browser out > there called Midori: > http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html > > It's associated with Xfce, who always has their eyes > on lightweight software. I suspect it's probably > nearer to Firefox than Dillo just because it supports > JavaScript, etc., but it might be worth a try. Their website lists the most current version of Midori as 0.0.18. I realize that Linux software, and GPLed software in general, frequently works nicely well before a major version number, but software which doesn't even have a minor version number yet can't possibly be reliable enough for regular use. The Midori site also implies that WebKit is currently rather buggy (a "please don't blame Midori programmers for all the bugs" plea if I ever heard one), a comment on the other "WebKit" messages here which state that tablet-based browsers are moving away from Gecko and towards WebKit, in some cases having been on WebKit for months. Is WebKit a good choice or just an ideological choice?

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Ikea cabinet Linux cluster
by Oren Beck 05 Oct '08

05 Oct '08

http://obscuredclarity.blogspot.com/2008/09/24-core-linux-cluster-in-2999-c… -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Midrange Web Browser? (between Firefox and Dillo)
by Leo Mauler 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

On the desktop PCs the slight bloat of Firefox doesn't cause a problem, while giving me lots of fun Firefox features. However, my much older laptop with its limited RAM (192MB) isn't as much fun with Firefox. Dillo is already on DamnSmallLinux and does display webpages, but I was wondering if there was a web browser, on the "free software" rack, with slightly more functionality than Dillo but still not as big as Firefox.

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RE: Men's Health id 73020856
by admin＠Viagra.us 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

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Reiser FS or ext3?
by gary hildebrand 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

I have a couple older distros of SuSE -- 6.4 & 7.2 and was wondering if there is an easy way to do it with a journaling FS? Whenever I'd get a hit/crash in ext2, it would sorta eat itself up, and then over a period of time, become unuseable. 6.4 has a wide variety of packages no longer available on the new distros, and I'd like to have a drive set up so I can boot it when wanted. Gary HIldebrand St. Joseph, MO

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Re: Shredder?
by Sean Crago 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Leo wrote: >I sense a new project for NASA: launching an annual rocket which contains instruments for learning more about our Sun, and a load of >old hard drives with sensitive data on them. >Its destination? Isn't it obvious? ;-) The residents of the Yucca Mountain area might wish they'd take a more Superman IV-inspired approach to their cargo selection. I'd say grinding a hard drive into a fine powder is probably enough to prevent it from doing any damage upon disposal. That said, you might also aim it at Europa and see if life erupts, given the new (albeit highly localized) heat source at the rocket's impact site. Is this topic [OT] yet? -Sean

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WRT54GL
by Gene Dascher 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

I am getting a Linksys WRT54GL today as my old WRK54G seems to be giving up the ghost. Has anyone on the list had any experience with running any of the non-Linksys firmware on this Router (DD-WRT, OpenWRT, Tomato, etc.) that they would care to share? Thanks, Gene

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