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Re: Old Hardware
by Brian Kelsay 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

As always, it depends on how fast you want it and what you want to do w/ it. I continue to stand behind Mepis (SimplyMepis) for a general desktop distro that you can try out as a LiveCD first. Under the hood it is Debian, so adding software and updating will be fast and easy. It will work fine in 128MB of Ram. If you want it to be a server too, you can apt-get what you specifically need or go ProMepis when it comes out. I use Libranet on my server which is also Debian based. Are you really looking for something compiled -O3 for your CPU? If you really want Gentoo, use the installer that has some stuff pre-compiled for your arch. I think it is a stage 2 or 3 install. Good luck with that, not for me. I do wish that Debian had an i586 and/or i686 repository. I wish I knew how much improvement one could expect from this. You might want to try Arch Linux. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=arch Arch Linux is an i686-optimized Linux distribution. It is lightweight and contains the latest stable versions of software. I haven't used it, but it seems to combine some pluses that Slackware and Gentoo users tout with an update system similar to Debian. YMMV Whatever desktop distro you choose, you will see a large speed improvement by using a less resource hungry window manager (i.e. not Gnome or KDE). Try IceWM, Fluxbox, etc. Brian Kelsay

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RE: Old Hardware
by Brian Densmore 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Look for a vga_v7 or vga_v71024i driver. There should be one and it should support your card. > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Lamar > > I've gotten the generic VGA x-server driver to work > in 640x480, but with only 2 colors. I was looking for > 256 colors like I get with Windows 3.1. The card is a > Video7 1024i with 512 KB of memory. I think the > chipset is slightly too old to work with the Video7 driver > that is available. > > I like that computer because it is the last generation of > hardware that I can get a basic grasp of. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Justin Lamar > > > > ... > > > > For kicks I installed Slackware 8.0 in my old 25 MHz 386 > with 8 MB of > > RAM. The Slackware is installed on a 6 GB drive. No X, the > > VGA video is > > vintage 1989 and I can't find an X-server that supports the > > chipset. > > Have you tried using the generic VGA driver? That should > always work on > any compliant VGA card. > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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RE: Old Hardware
by Brian Kelsay 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Or you could get the kdrive x-server drivers. They use those in DamnSmall Linux, but DamnSmall won't work on less than a 486. http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive.html http://www.rule-project.org/en/sw/kdrive.php http://freedesktop.org/Software/xserver http://www.gentoo-portage.com/x11-base/kdrive http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive/ for pre-compiled Deb, rpm and tar.gz. Brian Kelsay >>> "Brian Densmore" <> 02/04/05 08:57AM >>> > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Lamar > > ... > > For kicks I installed Slackware 8.0 in my old 25 MHz 386 with 8 MB of > RAM. The Slackware is installed on a 6 GB drive. No X, the > VGA video is > vintage 1989 and I can't find an X-server that supports the > chipset. Have you tried using the generic VGA driver? That should always work on any compliant VGA card.

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RE: Old Hardware
by Brian Densmore 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Lamar > > ... > > For kicks I installed Slackware 8.0 in my old 25 MHz 386 with 8 MB of > RAM. The Slackware is installed on a 6 GB drive. No X, the > VGA video is > vintage 1989 and I can't find an X-server that supports the > chipset. Have you tried using the generic VGA driver? That should always work on any compliant VGA card.

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Re: High Altitude Glider Project
by Brian Kelsay 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

They were in Canada. O Canada... They did cross the border on their first test flight and had to talk Customs agents into letting them retrieve it by boat from an island. Brian Kelsay >>> <lerninlinux(a)comcast.net> 02/04/05 12:11AM >>> Missed the meeting as usual (job hours) and going to check this out. But a while ago I believe you all were joking around about building a glider (if I am wrong, sorry) For something like this, here is a piece on info; you need DOD clearance for any GPS to work above 60,000 feet or Mach 1.

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Re: Network Access Question from IRC Channel
by Brian Kelsay 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

So, what exactly is the question? How to hack into a Linksys router? How to access the admin menu? What is the default password? How to set the port 8000 to open? Or all of those? My question to you is did you have your network card set to DHCP? Did you give it time to connect and get a LAN address or did you just plug in and boom, put in the ip of the router? When I bring my wireless router to the LUG meetings, sometimes it takes it a few minutes for it to connect to the LAN and get it's own IP and internet connection going, then people that connect to it, directly or via wireless, it may take it a minute to broadcast it's DHCP info to your card. Try to "ping 192.168.1.1" before you try to go to the webpage to config it. That will verify that you can reach it. Have you had any problems with your cable? Maybe try another or try a different port on the back of the router. Sometimes the ports go bad. Make sure you are not connected to a port with the uplink label and if that is the only one open, then turn off the uplink switch or pick a different port and unplug someone. Maybe they don't use the default IP addressing scheme with 192.168.1.1 as the router address. Try to "ping 192.168.0.1" or "ping 192.168.2.1". Brian Kelsay >>> <mike(a)handuma.com> 02/04/05 02:17AM >>> Hi Johnathan, No, I didn't gain access to the linksys router at the store on broadway. I must have looked pretty foolish. I thought it'd be easy. I plugged an Ethernet cable into their router and typed 192.168.1.1 into a browsers address bar. I expecting an authentication dialog box to pop up and happily accept my user name and password, just like it happens on my home network, instead I received a "connection failure," type error message. Next, I tried turning on Airport(I was using a powerbook)to access the Internet. This time, a dialog box popped up, alright, but it wouldn't accept the username password combination the owner had provided. Eventually, I found several options available in the authentication dialog box, one of them, "Leap," seemed likely, so, I selected it and happily filled in the fields again. I thought I'd found an alternative way in but the router didn't buy it. It replied with another error message, "invalid password." I asked the owner of the store to verify the password with the person who had installed the LAN and told him I'd try again tomorrow. They want me to broadcast an upcomming event so they're being very helpful. I wish I knew more about networking. To broadcast, I need to open port 8000 on this LAN. Hopefully they'll provide me with the authentication information I need. If not, I'll be asking for more help. Michael handuma.com

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Cheap Linux-compatible printer?
by Leo Mauler 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Basically I'm wanting to set up a home Linux printer server just so I can say I've done it once. I'm looking around for a $50 or less printer which is Linux compatible (I'd take "DOS compatibility mode") or even has Linux drivers. The printers I've been able to find in that range (Canon, HP, Lexmark) all seem to have neither DOS compatibility mode nor Linux drivers. I have about $50 to spend so I won't be able to take advantage of "this is the price after a mail-in rebate" pricing. I'd take a used printer if the cartridges aren't too hard to find and/or too expensive. ===== And I always thought: the very simplest words Must be enough. When I say what things are like Everyone's heart must be torn to shreds. That you'll go down if you don't stand up for yourself Surely you see that. -- Bertolt Brecht __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: Network Access Question from IRC Channel
by mike＠handuma.com 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Hi Johnatan, No, I didn't gain access to the linksys router at the store on broadway. I must have looked pretty foolish. I thought it'd be easy. I plugged an Ethernet cable into their router and typed 192.168.1.1 into a browsers address bar. I expecting an authentication dialog box to pop up and happily accept my user name and password, just like it happens on my home network, instead I received a "connection failure," type error message. Next, I tried turning on Airport(I was using a powerbook)to access the Internet. This time, a dialog box popped up, alright, but it wouldn't accept the username password combination the owner had provided. Eventually, I found several options available in the authentication dialog box, one of them, "Leap," seemed likely, so, I selected it and happily filled in the fields again. I thought I'd found an alternative way in but the router didn't buy it. It replied with another error message, "invalid password." I asked the owner of the store to verify the password with the person who had installed the LAN and told him I'd try again tomorrow. They want me to broadcast an upcomming event so they're being very helpful. I wish I knew more about networking. To broadcast, I need to open port 8000 on this LAN. Hopefully they'll provide me with the authentication information I need. If not, I'll be asking for more help. Michael handuma.com http://www.handuma.com

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Re: High Altitude Glider Project
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Missed the meeting as usual (job hours) and going to check this out. But a while ago I believe you all were joking around about building a glider (if I am wrong, sorry) For something like this, here is a piece on info; you need DOD clearance for any GPS to work above 60,000 feet or Mach 1. > As mentioned at Denny's last night: > http://members.shaw.ca/sonde/index.htm > > I was talking about a self-guided glider someone designed to be launched at > 85,000 ft from a weather balloon and a few people were intrigued. It has an > on-board PC-104 form PC for guidance with GPS, temp sensors, packet radio modem, > electronic compass, web cam and runs rom-dos. Lots of cool pictures and > details. > > > > Brian Kelsay > > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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"Linux" radio, one more time
by Richard A. Franklin 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Thanks for all the good feedback on Internet radio! While playing with a FreeSBIE live CD (9-27-04 release, sporting an Italian flag) on an old computer last night, I found a very usable streaming broadcast browser: http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner/ which requires: http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/ It isn't quite iTunes, but hey, it does the job quite well. AND, it was fun to see how well FreeBSD found old hardware, found the dhcp server, and played music. (I was actually trying out a few distros in my spare time over the past few weeks, to see if anything is fast enough to use as a desktop on a PII 400, 128MB system. So far, the rpm distros are about equally slow, Knoppix installed well, but is only slightly faster, Slackware is somewhat faster ... but VectorLinux, which is a Slack variant, is by far the fastest ... VERY fast, actually, considering the hardware ... seems that it is designed for older hardware. Of course, choice of graphical interface is always a factor.). Rick

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