Simply put, I have some capital to buy a laptop.
I would if possible spend my money in our community so to speak.
Prices and required specs are flexible but. minimally I need to run Linux and XP: as dual boot, have at least 1 hour battery, internal cd burner and reasonably professional external appeearance for air travel. The IED look is a non starter then,
Beryl seems the heaviest app I would run except whatever it takes to drive a scan/fax/prind device of some sort.
So what's in play ?
TIA
Oren
816.632.3695
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Why do you want to run Beryl?
On 10/29/07, Oren Beck <> wrote:
Simply put, I have some capital to buy a laptop.
I would if possible spend my money in our community so to speak.
Prices and required specs are flexible but. minimally I need to run Linux and XP: as dual boot, have at least 1 hour battery, internal cd burner and reasonably professional external appeearance for air travel. The IED look is a non starter then,
Beryl seems the heaviest app I would run except whatever it takes to drive a scan/fax/prind device of some sort.
So what's in play ?
TIA
Oren
816.xxxxxxxxx
Identify yourself as from KCLUG, as my calls get screened.
On 10/29/07, Brian Kelsay ripcrd@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you want to run Beryl?
To impress those easily impressed by eye candy?
So they'll wonder if you have a Mac, or ask "Is that Vista?" so you can tell them
"No, this is better than Vista. . . . Its name is Linuxhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3182711082396344549 ."
That's good enough reason for me right there.
Monty J. Harder wrote:
On 10/29/07, Brian Kelsay <[1]ripcrd@gmail.com> wrote:
Why do you want to run Beryl?To impress those easily impressed by eye candy? So they'll wonder if you have a Mac, or ask "Is that Vista?" so you can tell them "No, this is better than Vista. . . . [2]Its name is Linux." That's good enough reason for me right there.
Beryl's old news - it's been merged back with compiz and is now known as Compiz Fusion. Ubuntu 7.10 has Compiz Fusion integrated. It works fine on my laptop which only has a shared memory Intel i915 video card.
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Beryl's old news - it's been merged back with compiz and is now known as Compiz Fusion. Ubuntu 7.10 has Compiz Fusion integrated. It works fine on my laptop which only has a shared memory Intel i915 video card.
"only"? Can't get a whole lot better than that.
Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Beryl's old news - it's been merged back with compiz and is now known as Compiz Fusion. Ubuntu 7.10 has Compiz Fusion integrated. It works fine on my laptop which only has a shared memory Intel i915 video card.
"only"? Can't get a whole lot better than that.
Dedicated memory would be a start.
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Beryl's old news - it's been merged back with compiz and is now known as Compiz Fusion. Ubuntu 7.10 has Compiz Fusion integrated. It works fine on my laptop which only has a shared memory Intel i915 video card.
"only"? Can't get a whole lot better than that.
Dedicated memory would be a start.
I imagine you can select the amount of RAM dedicated to the video card in your BIOS. Is there a reason you want a physical split of memory? I don't think any Intel gfx chips allow for that.
Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Dedicated memory would be a start.
I imagine you can select the amount of RAM dedicated to the video card in your BIOS. Is there a reason you want a physical split of memory? I don't think any Intel gfx chips allow for that.
Now that I have 2G of RAM, it's not a big deal. But back when I had only 512MB of RAM, using 64-128MB (or whatever the minimum was) as video RAM potentially hurt performance. I know Intel GFX chips don't offer dedicated VRAM - I was specifically thinking of a higher end ATI or nVidia graphics card.
On 10/29/07, Michael Schultheiss schultmc@cinlug.org wrote:
Now that I have 2G of RAM, it's not a big deal. But back when I had only 512MB of RAM, using 64-128MB (or whatever the minimum was) as video RAM potentially hurt performance. I know Intel GFX chips don't offer dedicated VRAM - I was specifically thinking of a higher end ATI or nVidia graphics card.
FWIW, I can run Compiz Fusion and all sorts of Linux 3D games on an old GF4MX 440. Even the integrated 915 video (GMA 900) should stomp all over it. I think Luke is right that it's about all one really needs (on a laptop) unless you want some serious video power which (in a laptop) is then going to help suck out your battery power and put off heat. I haven't really put the specs together in a while, but also powering a bigger and faster LCD to make use of a more powerful GPU is also going to suck down battery power. And many LCD panels don't truly support the speeds and colors a good GPU can put out anyway, so it's still a bit overkill.
Jon.
I believe when someone states dedicated video memory on a laptop as a good thing, they mean RAM that runs at GPU speeds (independent of the system RAM bus speed) and is physically seperate from the system RAM. There is also dedicated RAM in the context of what your saying, 512MB of system RAM, 256MB set in the BIOS for video use, 256MB seen by the OS. One of the new perks in the laptop world is "Dedicated Video RAM" in like 128MB of RAM, soldered right to the mobo, clocked faster than the system RAM to run with the GPU, much the same as in a desktop computer. It's a pricey option, but there none the less.
Beryl, Compiz, Fusion, or whatever they call it, runs fine and fairly stable on my Acer Aspire 9300. Turion 64 x2 with 128MB dedicated video RAM and NVidia 7300 GPU.
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:19 -0500, Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Luke -Jr wrote:
On Monday 29 October 2007, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
Beryl's old news - it's been merged back with compiz and is now known as Compiz Fusion. Ubuntu 7.10 has Compiz Fusion integrated. It works fine on my laptop which only has a shared memory Intel i915 video card.
"only"? Can't get a whole lot better than that.
Dedicated memory would be a start.
I imagine you can select the amount of RAM dedicated to the video card in your BIOS. Is there a reason you want a physical split of memory? I don't think any Intel gfx chips allow for that. _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
On Monday 29 October 2007, Monty J. Harder wrote:
On 10/29/07, Brian Kelsay ripcrd@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you want to run Beryl?
To impress those easily impressed by eye candy?
So they'll wonder if you have a Mac, or ask "Is that Vista?" so you can tell them
"No, this is better than Vista. . . . Its name is Linuxhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3182711082396344549 ."
That's good enough reason for me right there.
Until they see that it crashes every 15 minutes...
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