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SSH Timeouts
by Jonathan Hutchins 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

I'm looking for other people who are having trouble maintaining idle SSH sessions. Recently RoadRunner replaced our router at one location, and since then idle sessions lock up in three to five minutes. As far as I know, there was no change on any of the systems involved. SSH clients and daemons are largely set to default configurations. Sessions within the site do not lock up, and sessions between other sites still behave as expected. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR HELP READING THE SSH MAN PAGES! I am aware that there might be solutions in using UDP keepalive signals and other options, but what I want to do is confirm what's happened so I identify the reason and return things to their previous function. I am looking for other people who have EXPERIENCED this change, or who have heard about it happening to someone else. I want to identify what we may have in common with other sites where this has happened. Thanks, Jonathan

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RE: Box stops communicating with switch on reboot
by Daniel Siemens 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Which models? -----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] On Behalf Of Patrick M Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:15 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Box stops communicating with switch on reboot Hi I have a couple of netopia routers with 4/8 port switches. When I take down my linux box and reboot, it won't connect unless I reset the switch. This in itself was livable I am the admin, I just have to remember to reset the switch or have someone else do it if I am not on site. Now, I reloaded an XP box on a linksys switch that is having the same problem. Is there something I am missing on this. do I need to open a port on the computers so the switches can see them easier? They end up working after resetting the switch, not something easy to do or remember every time you or your users reboot. _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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LaserJet 92295A cartridge
by Jonathan Hutchins 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Yours if you come get it. LaserJet 92295A cartridge new in box, fits LaserJet II, IID, III, IIID. Does NOT fit "P" models.

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New Linux Terminal Services Distribution
by kclug＠itdepends.com 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041210/laf012_1.html KANSAS CITY, Mo., Dec. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Lumen Software (www.lumensoftware.com) has announced the release of its new line of "maintenance free" Linux terminal services solutions, S2D(TM) for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 (SLES9). This is the first terminal service bundle of its kind created for SLES 9, Novell's EAL 4+ security rated operating system.

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Secondary Slave
by djgoku 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Computer Setup: Primary Master: Hard Drive Primary Slave: Nothing Present Secondary Master: Hard Drive #but no hard drive was presenting when trying to boot to cd. Secondary Slave: DVD Player I was trying to boot from the cdrom and it wasn't showing up in POST just the primary master hard drive. So I took the PM Hard drive out and just let the secondary boot by itself worked like a charm. I got it to work with the the below setup. Is this just me or does the bus not get scanned if a Secondary Master is present? Kinda weird I would think it would. This is probably the first time I have tried to boot from SM not present. Kinda weird though either way. Primary Master: Hard Drive Primary Slave: DVD Player Secondary Master: Hard Drive Secondary Slave: Nothing Present Thanks, -- dj_goku -www.djgoku.com- -www.tektronic.org-

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Re: Secondary Slave
by Brian Kelsay 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

If a drive is set to SS and no SM is present, then there is no drive to be the second part of the drive controller. The Master drive in any chain controls the flow of info to the Slave. When you set a drive to Slave, you basically turn off that feature of any drive and give over control to the Master in the chain. The reason I don't trust CS is when working on another person's box. If it is one I set up and it hasn't been messed with, then they will be set correctly and at the right point on the cable. Sometimes people will plug a drive set on Master, into the Slave plug on the cable rather than take the time to move drives around so the cables reach or get a longer cable. you may or may not believe some of the goofy stuff I have seen done inside PC cases. Brian Kelsay >>> djgoku <> 12/10/04 11:45AM >>> All hardware is new and in working condition. But for some reason if no SM present the SS doesn't show up.

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RE: Secondary Slave
by Brian Densmore 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Yep, that's what my current configuration is. PM : HD SM : CDRW w/o speaker hookup SS : CD/DVDROM w/speaker hookup Now if I only knew how to connect the speakers in such a way as to be able to let either one use the speakers. I of course could always do some fancy custom wiring to either put them in parallel or series, but then either the current might be off or the voltage, unless I added them to a custom board, etc. Another possibility is to rewire one to fit one of the alternate connectors on the SB. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > > > Some Western Digital drives I've had wanted to be on CS, > especially if the only drive in the chain. I personally > don't trust CS as far as I could throw it. It can get > confusing which drive you are using when installing an OS or > a new bootloader. CDRW drives like to be Secondary Master, > but don't have to be. When they first came out for IDE that > was a general rule to installing one though. Move the CDROM > from SM to SS and put the CDRW on SM. Or put the CDROM on as > PS. Can't remember which gives you better speed for CD to CD > copy, but I imagine the best solution would be a drive > controller and put em both on as masters. > > Brian Kelsay >

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RE: Secondary Slave
by Brian Kelsay 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Some of the basic soundblaster cards have multiple inputs, all SB Live! cards do. Most motherboards w/ on-board sound have more than one input also. They started adding the extra ports for PC telephony, you know hook your modem to the sound card. When people started getting CDRWs and DVD drives, the inputs grew from 2 to 3. My SB Live has 3-4 on it. You can get them for $20-30 now. Brian Kelsay >>> "Brian Densmore" <DensmoreB(a)ctbsonline.com> 12/10/04 11:24AM >>> Yep, that's what my current configuration is. PM : HD SM : CDRW w/o speaker hookup SS : CD/DVDROM w/speaker hookup Now if I only knew how to connect the speakers in such a way as to be able to let either one use the speakers. I of course could always do some fancy custom wiring to either put them in parallel or series, but then either the current might be off or the voltage, unless I added them to a custom board, etc. Another possibility is to rewire one to fit one of the alternate connectors on the SB.

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RE: Secondary Slave
by Brian Densmore 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Whoa, cool! I'll have to find an old MB and dig out a HD to try it on. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kelsay > > Repeat after me... Hot-swap is only safe on drives that are > sold as Hot-swap drives. Usually SCSI, but I have heard of > other methods. That's a quick way to burn up the controller > chip on the HDD circuit board. I have seen it happen. Nice > sparks and sometimes flames when they go. > > Who's up for roasting marshmallows over a Quantum Fireball as > it goes out in a blaze of glory? > [homer] Mmmmmm Marshmellooooooooooooooooow ...

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Re: Secondary Slave
by Brian Kelsay 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Repeat after me... Hot-swap is only safe on drives that are sold as Hot-swap drives. Usually SCSI, but I have heard of other methods. That's a quick way to burn up the controller chip on the HDD circuit board. I have seen it happen. Nice sparks and sometimes flames when they go. Who's up for roasting marshmallows over a Quantum Fireball as it goes out in a blaze of glory? Brian Kelsay

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