Looks like that was from Jeff G.. but same sentiments (ie much appreciated!)
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From: Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org>
Sent: Mar 7, 2026 9:54 AM
To: <kclug.org(a)forge.name>, KCLUG mailing list <kclug(a)kclug.org>
Cc: Steve Gilmore <Steve.Gilmore(a)garmin.com>
Subject: Re: Site requirements and Move
> On 03/07/2026 9:15 AM CST Jeff G wrote:
> I will be happy to throw $200 towards whatever VM & site & host & etc to however you'd like to use that.
Thanks Steve, that's very generous.
KCLUG does not have an organizational structure; we do not have a treasurer or any means to accept or hold donations except in-kind (services or hardware). For now, any KCLUG member has the same authority as any other, so it's best if you just earmark the money and hang on to it for the rest of us.
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Jonathan
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Johnathan,
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate where you're coming from on keeping prod as simple and stable as possible, I wasn't trying to kick off a debate. I asked because I genuinely wanted to understand your perspective.
I'm with you on "no compilers on exposed prod boxes." Where containers have worked well for us is leaning on them in the build pipeline, then keeping the production image as minimal as we can: just the app (often just a binary) and whatever it needs to execute. Sometimes that's even FROM scratch, or something tiny like Alpine, rather than starting from a full Ubuntu base and carrying around things we don't need.
That said, you're right that containers are another layer to operate, and it's worth treating that as real complexity.
In this case, it looks like Chris already has a working example in the repo I cloned it yesterday to build one myself and found it there. One thing that stood out is the base image/deps.
For reference:
https://hub.docker.com/layers/library/php/8.2-apache/images/sha256-89ad17cc…
It looks like some dependencies are outdated/vulnerable, so my inclination is to bump to the latest viable base and see what breaks, then work forward from there.
Thanks,
Steve Gilmore
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Hi All,
Would anyone be interested in a N of the River meeting?
I reserved a room for March 11, 7pm-9pm
At the Green Hills Road Library
8581 N. Green Hills Rd.
Kansas City, MO 64154
https://www.mymcpl.org/locations/green-hills-library-center
Chris